There’s nothing wrong with not dating a trans person, which might be motivated by transphobia but is completely your prerogative. What’s wrong is generalizing about trans people. Trans people of the same gender don’t all have the same “parts,” for one thing. If you’re so prejudiced against trans people please don’t date any trans person ever, they don’t want you. What’s wrong is your transphobia, not the fact that you won’t date them.
While I was in a ST: Disco mindset, I took some time to finish this sketch of Michael Burnham. Nothing super exciting, just a redraw of an episode still but I finally got to play with the gold pens I ordered from @jetpens a gazillion months ago and the ZIG Wink of Stella glitter gold pen is probably the best thing to have ever happened to me ✨✨✨
we talk a lot about how cis lesbians dont wanna date trans girls but why dont we unpack how yall cis gays wouldnt even be caught in a mile radius near a trans dude
lets revisit this ladies
yes, let’s talk about this because i’m sick of cis gay dudes asking my boyfriend if he minds or say he’s only okay with it cause he’s bi. i’m sick of them saying shit like “i’d never be able to do that to myself” and “even if he’s a boy he has, you know…girl parts…” or whatever. not to mention the amount of gay dudes who hit on me when i was passing only to find out i’m trans and laugh it off like they were joking or, worse, react with utter disgust. cis gays are just as capable of being transphobic as cis lesbians and the fact that people are only calling out women is kind of telling. a lot of gay men won’t even entertain the possibility of dating a trans man and their “reasons” are just excuses wrapped up in transphobia and, at times, misogyny. the community gives cis gay men a lot of free passes for their bigotry and i’m sick of it. we should really talk about this.
That’s an interesting–and disheartening–dichotomy. In fact I can’t think of a lot of Black men/white women romances on the big screen in general. There was a discourse about John as a romantic lead a little while back and I’ve been thinking since then, do even undisputed superstars like Denzel Washington and Will Smith count as romantic leads? Will had Mr. Hitch and Denzel had… The Preacher’s Wife? They both have amazing filmographies and commercial success that few actors of any race could rival and yet I don’t think they could be called romantic leading men like Leonardo Dicaprio or Brad Pitt. It seems to be a combination of Hollywood’s distaste for both interracial romances and Black leading women.
There have been several films that Denzel should have had a romance with the co-lead, but because she was white they nixed it because test audiences didn’t like it.
Will, among many other black actors, has had the love interest changed from the original casting call (black) to someone more racially ambiguous to appeal to audiences (usually mixed with light skin or non-black Latina) by studios.
Hollywood is a mess and it’s still in so many ways operating on the 80s & 90s scale of what sales and what won’t, even though a lot of people want better. All I can say is I hope John is able to break that mold. Or at the very least put some more dents in it. He’s on the right track with starting his own production company to make an impact.
Evidently it wasn’t his own preference, according to the Washington Post (link). He would have been okay with playing interracial romance on screen with white leads, but he knew white men wouldn’t like it.
Continuing a legacy doesn’t mean you have to be taught from scratch, or that you are made to do things you would not do otherwise. The fact that someone is already doing what the legacy represents seems to me an argument for, not against, their being a fitting successor. Han showed Finn and Rey trust and affection that neither of them had known, and Leia continued that by believing in and respecting Finn from the start and showing Rey immediate, unconditional love. Luke’s relationship with Rey was lacking, as was TLJ itself, but at least there’s the aspect of him teaching her with his failures and by overcoming them.
Also, if you recall, the context of the discussion is whether Kylo Ren is an inheritor of the Skywalker legacy. No matter how unsatisfactory you may find the handing of the torch between the old and new trios, it’s far and away more positive than the interactions with the man who destroyed everything his father, mother, and uncle worked for. No matter how you feel about Finn, Rey, and Poe as inheritors of the Skywalker legacy, it can’t be grounds for an argument that Kylo Ren is a better inheritor by virtue of his birth.
Seriously, Kylo being the heir to the Skywalker legacy at this point would send the message that as long as you have important parents you can get away with murder, literally. Along with torture, genocide and so on.
As long as your parents are important enough and you’re a white man, it’s gonna be okay.
Sorry, but that’s a terrible and hateful message to send.
Yeah I know he’s Buddhist. That doesn’t mean his cultural Christian influences are any less, though. Even atheists in the U.S. are frequently very Christian in their culture. Also George’s understanding of Buddhism is kinda shit if the PT are anything to go by.
There’s more than just Christian themes in Star Wars though, and George’s religion should have nothing to do with how the movies from either eras our judges. If you’re judging a person’s understanding of their religion based off their movies than most the filmmakers would have shit beliefs.
I live in the US and there’s many other religions in the country, not every atheist came from a Christian belief system. I was raised Muslim and Catholic, but I chose to be Agnostic.
We can’t judge people by their religion unless there’s firm proof that’s what their motivation was from.
That’s kind of the dilemma of literary hermeneutics. We often tend to interpret things based on the writer’s religion or the religious influences they might’ve had or what was going on politically in their country at that time but in the end all we do is guess. Not to mention that there is never such a thing as THE interpretation, no matter how much information we collect about George, JJ, RJ and the current time and context. Then we won’t ever be able to seperate ourselves from our own socialisation which will – no matter how hard we try – influence our judgement. And even those of us who grew up in the western world have very different thinking patterns that won’t only be different from each others’ but also from those of the writers, not to mention the differences that occure between people literally from all over the world. So even when I for instance write that TLJ is a result of RJ’s racist and sexist thinking patterns, it’s just the most logical conclusion I came to, but it’s still an interpretation. (but if people interpret his work that way it’s bad, no matter what RJ’s intention truly was, thus he would need to apologize and reflect on his writing anyway) So the OT as a Christian story is an interpretation. Every parallel we discuss, no matter how likely it seems to us, is an interpretation. That doesn’t mean we should stop doing that of course (LOL then we could throw all literature studies into the trash) but we have to be aware of it.
Like I forget it sometimes as well but I have the feeling so do many of you. It’s a normal thing bc some of these conclusions are so natural to us that we forget or never realise where they came from. But I can for instance say that the OT as a Christian story or TLJ as a Christian story seem completely alien to me. (even more so with TLJ) And I did grow up in a Christian society too. So it’s just one way to interpret it which seems very likely to some people but unlikely to others. And what truly influenced George… maybe even he doesn’t know. Same for RJ.
“If you’re judging a person’s understanding of their religion based off
their movies than most the filmmakers would have shit beliefs.“
@themandalorianwolf Isn’t that pretty much Hollywood in a nutshell 😂 What I’m talking about, however, is Yoda’s prattling about how attachment is bad and so on, which people keep saying is Buddhist when it’s more a bastardized understanding of Buddhism popular in the West. I have written about this before (link).
And where did I judge someone for their religion? Like, am I being accused of Christophobia or Buddhaphobia or something here? 😛 I don’t have anything against Christians or cultural Christianity in of itself–I’m a very culturally Christian atheist/agnostic myself. My issue is with people discounting the clear Christian themes (forgiveness, redemption etc.) because of George’s religion. I didn’t bring his religion into this, I made a plausible reading of themes in the story, which is one of many possible readings as @thelastjedicritical said, and someone brought up George’s religion to invalidate that. So I retorted that someone having a different religion or no religion does not discount prior cultural influences. I know that from personal experience, as I said.
I also never stated that Christianity is the only religion in the U.S., I know how diverse it is ethnically, religiously and otherwise. However, it’s just fact that the U.S. is a heavily majority Christian country with some 70% of the population belonging to some sect of Christianity (link), so the statement that atheists in the U.S. are frequently–not exclusively, I never said that–culturally Christian shouldn’t be controversial.
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