Evidently not agreeing with RJ’s writing decisions and wanting some continuity in Luke’s character means you are an attention hog and think Luke is God. Also pssssst reylows, ix-nay on the ark-May! The fandom already hates you and now you want to go after fricking Mark Hamill?! The one figure universally beloved by the fandom now that Carrie is gone? God, they are the worst.
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I can find Kylo merchandise everywhere but zero Finn’s. I wish media would talk about it like they did to “where is rey”
The media has never cared about Finn, they assume he’s a secondary character and unimportant for Reasons.
Oh my gosh is Bandwagon Campervan really like that? Screw that guy. Sherlock may not be autistic (sociopathy is not a form of autism) but Turing was. Did he really compare autistics to a one year old child? He would have been perfect as Legends Thrawn too. Can we get a ton of autistics to send him a letter saying “screw you Bendywonk Crinklebottom, we can think too, signed autistics”
Here’s a page documenting some of Camperbatch’s objectionable comments (link, ableism and aphobia at page). Here are his comments about calling Turing and Sherlock autistic characters (link). I mean on the one hand I can understand it as him saying that autistic people should not be represented only as brilliant scientists and thinkers. This is something many autistic people also dislike because it flattens the image of autism and insinuates that autistic people are only valuable if they are savant types whose intelligence is useful to allistic people. This however is a problem to be solved by a broader spectrum, if you will, of autistic representation, not by denying the autism of real historical figures.
Do you agree with the idea that Finn fans are dumb to think anything will noticeably change for the better for him in Episode IX and that we’re stupid to trust the guy who sidelined him in the first place? I want to be positive but then I read stuff like Finn being removed from merch and I start wondering if I’m just playing myself.
I more than understand that people are disappointed about the bait-and-switch in TFA, but it’s objectively not true that he was sidelined to the same degree in TFA as he was in TLJ. If JJ hadn’t made him a protagonist in TFA it would not be even possible to discuss his “sidelining” in TLJ, because you can’t sideline a character who has always been there. My trust for Disney is nonexistent and my trust in JJ limited, but I do trust John who seems genuinely excited about IX.
The claim that Finn is being removed from merchandise has been, I believe, largely debunked by @diversehighfantasy and others (link). I think it may have been fan jitters talking due to lack of selection and availability, which has always been a problem. The merchandise anon is free to come back with more concrete facts backing up their case, of course.
Apparently Finn is being removed from new TFA merch. I think that’s why some Finn fans have been touchy about Poe because in many cases he is being inserted where Finn would have been before, or Chewie is. Rey and bb-8 are constants. Little to nor Finn in TLJ merch I can understand but it feels like they’re reissuing TFA stuff specifically to put Finn out and Poe in. It’s not a good feeling, esp considering the screen time in TFA of the respective characters.
God, they’d better not be Sleepy Hollow-ing Finn. I mean I’m pretty positive they’re not killing him, but he could still be seriously sidelined.
This isn’t really new they have always had very little Finn merchandise. It’s the same old bull shit Disney has been pulling with there black characters for a very long time. It’s the same reason there’s very little princess Tiana merchandise, Falcon, Iron patriot, Ect.
Disney doesn’t care about there black characters except for the ones from black panther and that’s really an anomaly for them.
What’s the source for Finn being removed from new TFA merch? There is definitely merch that leaves him (but not Poe) off going back to 2015. I have pics to prove it. But I had a much harder time finding FN-2187 merch (blood streaked helmet) until the last year or so. SuperHeroStuff has several Finn shirts for sale, including an FN2187 and a “I’m kind of a big deal” tee I never saw when TFA came out. Not to mention WalMart sells multiple Finn and Rey figure sets and other Finn toys, well more than Poe toys, especially from TFA lines.
So what are they basing it on?
Yeah I’ve had the same experience as you, that Finn merch (and FN-2187 merch) is easier to find now than it has been so far. And no I’m not talking about shops where I’ve been asking about it. I mean just seeing it in the normal toy/figure/SW/whatever section of the shop along side all the rest.
I used to have to dig – or ask – about it, now I can often find it on the shelf. Or at least more often than I used to.
I’m not saying it doesn’t/hasn’t happened, but it conflicts very much with my own experience. So I too would like some actual examples of this.
Disney parks and there stores are a very different situation. They have very little if any Finn merchandise that’s not just an action figure. I know cause every time I go to Disney I ask what Finn merchandise do you have? Shit I was in Disneyland right after tlj came out. All Finn got was a couple figurines Rose didn’t get much either. Yet the porgs where fucking everywhere. They do this with all there non-white Star Wars characters. I made a post about it awhile back and seems nothing has changed.
You can go to Disney official website and see there dismally small supply of Finn merchandise. Meanwhile kylo, rey, luke, Han and Leia are easy to find. Do to the solo movie we did get more Lando merchandise but I see it falling off soon. I remember that campaign about where’s Rey and how she got all new toys and merchandise. Wish we could get that same energy for Finn the current male lead of the series.
But people are saying Finn has been “removed” from new TFA merchandise, not that Disney parks stock less Finn than WalMart, which has been true from the beginning. All that says is that people who shop at Disney are less interested in Finn merch than people who shop at WalMart, where there are a decent number of Finn items.
There’s a big difference between Finn merch not being on shelves vs Finn Merch not being made or removed. If anything, Finn merch sitting on the shelves is a bad thing. It means no one is buying it.
Yup and the only toys I’ve ever seen in the 80% off bargain bin are Kylo and Pretorian guards. The dollar store near me still has unsold $1 Kylo Ren items from three years ago, while the Finn versions are long gone (and I know they were there because I bought some of them). That’s all anecdotal, too – the business journal articles about Kylo items massively underselling aren’t, though. The business of merchandising is separate from the business of making the films (look at FoD, Finn has two episodes, Kylo has zero, yet there was Kylo doll). And in the case of LF, their merchandising Dept has always had tremendous bias in favor of white buyers who want white toys.
What are the business articles describing the underselling off kylo items?
The focus on Kylo merchandise over the heroes, especially Rey, was a scandal in early 2016 covered extensively in the media.
John Marcotte of Heroic Girls was widely quoted after he spoke with Disney execs about the lack of Rey merchandise when TFA was released. He said they were “blindsided” with the lack of interest in Kylo, who they expected to be the breakout character. He said, quote:
“Now they’re stuck with vast amounts of Kylo Ren product that is not moving and a tidal wave of complaints about a lack of Rey items.”
The miscalculation led to a TFA script rewrite to focus more on Finn, Poe and Rey. RJ had planned to focus on his own new characters, as well as Kylo, presumably.
TFA toy sales were huge despite of Disney’s miscalculation. Top TFA toys per Google research were the app enabled BB8, Millennium Falcon toys and Lego sets, Stormtrooper figures, and Rey items once they started rolling out.
It’s also been widely reported that TLJ’s toy sales fell by 47% compared to TFA sales. Hasbro CEO blamed releasing the toys in September, but later noted that Star Wars merchandise was picking up online (where fans have choices beyond leftover TLJ merch like the Pretorian guards that didn’t sell).
The cult of Kylo Ren in fandom and on social media has not translated into blockbuster sales of Kylo merchandise.
I started writing in the July of last year and am currently at 42,129 words. Keep going and all the success in the world to you! PS in terms of naming conventions Udana is a play on Udnua meaning ‘new moon’ in Sumerian as she is the child of a moon temple and expected to save it from redundancy. Her mother also gives her the baby name of bubbulu which means the same thing but in Akkadian.
I started in 2014 and have written… 159,868 words according to Scrivener, but mostly in unusable older drafts ;_; So I’ve been going down a lot of dead ends and coming back and going back and forth, but my current iteration of the story seems workable and I’m hoping to develop it into a full draft. I love that you’re using Sumerian and Akkadian for your names, it’s not a frequently seen setting for space operas and I hope to read it!
au where Anakin is Mace Windu’s padawan
Anakin bit his lip, afraid to ask, but needing to know. “Master? Why didn’t you want me to be a Jedi?”
Mace gave the boy, his student for nearly a year, a measured look. “I was afraid.”
“Of me?” Anakin’s voice trembled despite his best efforts. Master Windu wasn’t afraid of anything. “What’s wrong with me?”
Mace shook his head. “You reminded me of someone I didn’t want to remember.”
Anakin looked at the floor, his shoulders tight with anger, fear, shame, and his determination not to show them. “A Sith,” he guessed.
Mace placed a hand on his wayward padawan’s shoulder. “Myself,” he explained. “Before I learned to trust the Force.”
Anakin raised wide eyes to his master’s, flashing with a hundred questions, but he could articulate none. Mace pat his shoulder, once, and let go.
“You will be a Jedi. I promise.”
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